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  • What happens if you pump to much pressure?

    On the manual instruction it states to not pump more than 10hg of pressure but on PEGYM I read that for every pound you use 1hg ( 1 lbs= 1hg) so when one reaches 20 lbs he'll need 20hg or at least 15hg as with 10hg it will cause slippage issues?

    What happens if you pump more than 10hg? I've only been using the LG for a few weeks so I obviously haven't reached that weight yet. But like I said in another post where I thought my chamber was too big, would that explain why I have to pump more hg than if I had a smaller chamber?

    I'm currently using 4 lbs but I need to pump more than 4hg, even 5hg isn't enough as I feel the hanger slipping so I use around 7hg.


  • #2
    As you know you will need to increase the pressure as you add weight but it's not necessarily a 1:1 ratio. You only need enough to keep it from slipping and that can vary from person to person for the same amount of weight. I'm currently hanging 15 lbs and 12 - 13 lbs is all I need to keep it from slipping.

    The problem with using too much pressure without the proper amount of conditioning of the glans and urethral opening to handle it is that you are putting yourself at risk of blisters or bruising. 5 Hg isn't much vacuum and in my opinion you do need at least that much starting off even though your hanging less than 5 lbs. Using 7 Hg to hang 4 lbs seems like overkill to me. Try pumping it up to 10 Hg for about 5 second and release it a few times to help pump up your glans before adding the weight. By doing this you may be able to hang the 4 lbs at 5 Hg. When I hang 15 lbs I start off with 12 lbs for the first 5 minutes. During this time my glans will expand up against the chamber walls and when I add the additional weight I have no slipping at all. This is what works for me and might not work for everyone. The point I'm trying to make is that you may need to experiment a little to find what will work for you to find the minimum amount of vacuum needed to keep it from slipping for the weight you are hanging.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Hangman View Post
      As you know you will need to increase the pressure as you add weight but it's not necessarily a 1:1 ratio. You only need enough to keep it from slipping and that can vary from person to person for the same amount of weight. I'm currently hanging 15 lbs and 12 - 13 lbs is all I need to keep it from slipping.

      The problem with using too much pressure without the proper amount of conditioning of the glans and urethral opening to handle it is that you are putting yourself at risk of blisters or bruising. 5 Hg isn't much vacuum and in my opinion you do need at least that much starting off even though your hanging less than 5 lbs. Using 7 Hg to hang 4 lbs seems like overkill to me. Try pumping it up to 10 Hg for about 5 second and release it a few times to help pump up your glans before adding the weight. By doing this you may be able to hang the 4 lbs at 5 Hg. When I hang 15 lbs I start off with 12 lbs for the first 5 minutes. During this time my glans will expand up against the chamber walls and when I add the additional weight I have no slipping at all. This is what works for me and might not work for everyone. The point I'm trying to make is that you may need to experiment a little to find what will work for you to find the minimum amount of vacuum needed to keep it from slipping for the weight you are hanging.
      Good advice! I agree 100% with Hangman. The priming technique he outlines works very well.
      Rule of thumb is only use what is necessary to prevent weight from slipping. As you gain conditioning and experience you'll find you need less Hg vac pressure. I typically warm up with 8 lbs and I never require more than 5 Hg's of vac pressure to hang that weight.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Hangman View Post
        As you know you will need to increase the pressure as you add weight but it's not necessarily a 1:1 ratio. You only need enough to keep it from slipping and that can vary from person to person for the same amount of weight. I'm currently hanging 15 lbs and 12 - 13 lbs is all I need to keep it from slipping.

        The problem with using too much pressure without the proper amount of conditioning of the glans and urethral opening to handle it is that you are putting yourself at risk of blisters or bruising. 5 Hg isn't much vacuum and in my opinion you do need at least that much starting off even though your hanging less than 5 lbs. Using 7 Hg to hang 4 lbs seems like overkill to me. Try pumping it up to 10 Hg for about 5 second and release it a few times to help pump up your glans before adding the weight. By doing this you may be able to hang the 4 lbs at 5 Hg. When I hang 15 lbs I start off with 12 lbs for the first 5 minutes. During this time my glans will expand up against the chamber walls and when I add the additional weight I have no slipping at all. This is what works for me and might not work for everyone. The point I'm trying to make is that you may need to experiment a little to find what will work for you to find the minimum amount of vacuum needed to keep it from slipping for the weight you are hanging.
        Right so the only side effect I'd get if I use too much pressure is blisters & bruising? I've been experimenting & using around 4hg to 10hg of pressure and I haven't got a blister? I wrap my whole glans so none of it is uncovered or in touch with the dome, that probably explains why I haven't got a blister

        I feel when I use more hg of pressure than the weight I'm using I can hang for a full hour without if feeling slipping, if I was to use less than 5hg or 5hg I feel it slipping so I'm more comfrotable using 7-8hg.

        Is there any risk besides blisters/bruising if I was to use around 20hg when I've reached 20 lbs of weight?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by FanofPE View Post

          Right so the only side effect I'd get if I use too much pressure is blisters & bruising? I've been experimenting & using around 4hg to 10hg of pressure and I haven't got a blister? I wrap my whole glans so none of it is uncovered or in touch with the dome, that probably explains why I haven't got a blister

          I feel when I use more hg of pressure than the weight I'm using I can hang for a full hour without if feeling slipping, if I was to use less than 5hg or 5hg I feel it slipping so I'm more comfrotable using 7-8hg.

          Is there any risk besides blisters/bruising if I was to use around 20hg when I've reached 20 lbs of weight?
          I really don't recommend going beyond 10 -12 Hg's of vacuum pressure with any amount of weight. Glans protection wrap will help prevent blisters, but nothing will completely eliminate them if you use more weight or time than you are conditioned for. Some guys are not capable of getting up to the 20 lb range, and in many instances it isn't even necessary to go that heavy.

          If you have a weight you can comfortably hang with for a full hour without any blister complications and you decide it's time to add weight that's fine, just try and keep the vacuum Hg pressures from exceeding the 10-12 Hg level. I can hang 15 - 18 lbs with only 10 Hg's of vacuum, but as I hang weight the vacuum pressure within the chamber will spike a couple points.... this is okay.

          If you go up in weight and you begin to feel a slip, just stop the hang, remove the chamber, check your glans protection wrap and reload. Even if you only get to 15 - 20 minutes of hang time with the heavier weight and it begins to slip, taking the chamber off and reloading with fresh vacuum should only take a minute or two at the most. Remember the goal is to reach fatigue and it really doesn't matter if you have to reload a few times during the hour session if you begin to feel a slip.

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          • #6
            Okay thanks for the advice. But what other risk is there if I was to use 15-20hg of pressure when I'm up to 15-20 lbs? Is there a risk of injury of some sort or just a blister?

            Also I have another question, I'm following the 8 week routine on the back of the manual instruction which was provided with the LG

            Is it ok to add more weights a few days earlier than the schedule? Right now I'm using 3.75 lbs, last week I felt a stretch but this week especially tonight I don't feel it working, I feel I need to add 1 lbs of weight.

            So can add 1 more pound of weight now or do I have to wait until next week ( Monday)?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by FanofPE View Post
              Okay thanks for the advice. But what other risk is there if I was to use 15-20hg of pressure when I'm up to 15-20 lbs? Is there a risk of injury of some sort or just a blister?

              Also I have another question, I'm following the 8 week routine on the back of the manual instruction which was provided with the LG

              Is it ok to add more weights a few days earlier than the schedule? Right now I'm using 3.75 lbs, last week I felt a stretch but this week especially tonight I don't feel it working, I feel I need to add 1 lbs of weight.

              So can add 1 more pound of weight now or do I have to wait until next week ( Monday)?


              Using excessive vacuum pressure will increase the likelihood of creating a blister. Unless you are one of those guys who are highly conditioned from years of pumping and have become accustomed to higher levels of vacuum pressure I don't recommend exceeding 10-12 Hg's of vac pressure even if you're using 15-20 lbs. If you want to go that heavy I still only recommend 10-12 Hg's. If the weight begins to slip after 10 - 15 minutes, just stop the hang, remove chamber, check glans protection wrap and reload with fresh vacuum and resume the hang. Doing this 3 - 4 times during a hour session will not inhibit your ability to reach fatigue.




              The suggested routine on the back of the instruction manual is just that..... suggested. If you feel you can add weight, then go ahead and do so. Weight hanging and PE training in general is rather intuitive. You learn your body and what you are capable of doing, only you can determine if you're ready to increase the training intensity. Just familiarize yourself with the article on our blog that I wrote concerning blisters …. "Blisters - how to avoid them and what to do if you get one". Learn to recognize the red flag warning signs and you will avoid a blister set back and enjoy your training that much more!

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              • #8
                My fear is that I don't want to get a stronger penis but a longer penis. I read about that on a thread that if you add weights too frequently you can end up with a stronger penis which is not what I want.

                So is it ok to add 1 lbs every week instead of every 2 weeks?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by FanofPE View Post
                  My fear is that I don't want to get a stronger penis but a longer penis. I read about that on a thread that if you add weights too frequently you can end up with a stronger penis which is not what I want.

                  So is it ok to add 1 lbs every week instead of every 2 weeks?
                  I think I mentioned how long it took me to go from the initial starting weight of 3 lbs. to work my way up to 8 lbs. and that was 3 full months of consistent training 5-6 days per week, twice daily. Obviously you will eventually get to a place where you can no longer comfortably add any more weight. That plateau is different for each and every individual. When you get to that place, I recommend utilizing more advanced hanging exercises like the Fulcrum and Bundle along with some clamp and pump work.

                  So this theory that if you add weight too quickly you will strengthen your penis rather than stretch it. I personally think your penis / body will prohibit that from happening. Which is why the optimal hang time for any given amount of weight is approximately one hour. I refer to this as T.U.T. - "Time Under Tension". Follow me here.... if you're using too much weight you won't be able to complete a full hour hang session. I believe this theory is only applicable to those who are using Compression Clamp hangers. If you read any of the forums where the Compression Clamp gurus tell you how they train it's always short 10-15 minute sets with increasingly heavier and heavier weight as they progress into multiple sets. Rather than allowing your penis and pelvic floor muscle to completely relax and feel a complete stretch over a full hour time frame they compress the penis and use short sessions with heavy weight. For those who are beginning weight hangers this is counter productive and it would likely strengthen the suspensory ligament. You're looking for a "relaxed" stretch, not a teeth gritting, clock watching tense filled stretch.

                  Be careful what you read on the forums! Lots of erroneous and bad information with regard to weight hanging. To answer your last question about adding weight to your hang.... one pound or two pounds per week? I'd say that is totally up to you and how you are responding to the current weight you are hanging. I personally tend to add weight in low increments, and it all depends on where you currently are. If you're at 5 lbs for a full hour with no complications and have a couple months of consistent training under your belt and want to make a two pound jump then give it a try, I would suggest you drop time down to 40-45 minutes to assess your tolerance and gradually add five minutes each day or every other day until you're back up to a full hour hang session with no complications.

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                  • #10
                    So it's fine for me to add 1-2lbs every week? I have 1.25lbs & 2.5lbs plates so it's ok to add 1.25lbs plate per week but wouldn't adding 2.5lbs plates everyweek be too much too soon?

                    The thing is I've had a flu for the last 2 weeks so I wasn't able to use the LG. So I think it wouldn't be wise for me to add weight after a long break? I read somewhere ( I think it was on the LG LLC blog/website) that weight souldn't be added after you've took al ong break from using the LG, is that right?

                    I have another problem with the silicone sleeve. As I feared the slicone sleeve has become loose, I think it's due to stretching the sleeve onto the dome/chamber, what can I do to make it more snug/tight?

                    Also when removing my glans from the chamber during one session the silicone sleeve slipped off the chamber dome. So I don't home much of the silicone do I have to put onto the chamber, do I put 1 inch or 2 on the chamber/dome?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by FanofPE View Post
                      So it's fine for me to add 1-2lbs every week? I have 1.25lbs & 2.5lbs plates so it's ok to add 1.25lbs plate per week but wouldn't adding 2.5lbs plates everyweek be too much too soon?

                      The thing is I've had a flu for the last 2 weeks so I wasn't able to use the LG. So I think it wouldn't be wise for me to add weight after a long break? I read somewhere ( I think it was on the LG LLC blog/website) that weight souldn't be added after you've took al ong break from using the LG, is that right?

                      I have another problem with the silicone sleeve. As I feared the slicone sleeve has become loose, I think it's due to stretching the sleeve onto the dome/chamber, what can I do to make it more snug/tight?

                      Also when removing my glans from the chamber during one session the silicone sleeve slipped off the chamber dome. So I don't home much of the silicone do I have to put onto the chamber, do I put 1 inch or 2 on the chamber/dome?
                      Adding weight and time to your hang session is intuitive. I wish I could be more definitive, but everyone responds and progresses individually. Like I mentioned in a previous post, it took me three full months to work my way up from a beginning weight of 3 lbs to 8 lbs. I always recommend no more than 1.25 - 2.5 lb increases in weight, and that's only when you have been able to hang with a defined amount of weight for a with no complications. It's completely up to you if you want to jump up another 2.5 lbs. You can try it and see how it feels. You will obviously not be able to add 2.5 lbs to your hang each and every week. You will find you personal limitation.

                      If you have to take a break for a couple weeks or more due to whatever the reason may be, I always suggest dropping the weight and hang time by 50% and then slowly over the course of the next two weeks incrementally build back up to where you left off. Similar to working on a sun tan, your skin needs to be reconditioned to that work load or exposure.

                      As for stretching your sleeve repeatedly..... you shouldn't have to remove the sleeve from the chamber each time you use it. Just stretch and roll the portion that hangs from the chamber back up over itself. The instruction manual provides an illustration on how to do this. However if you are loosing vacuum pressure because your sleeve isn't making solid contact with your penis skin and you are experiencing the weight slipping during your hang, then you might need to purchase a new sleeve. If you feel your current sleeve is too big, you might want to go down a size. I always choose the sleeve size based on the measurements the customer supplies. If you happen to be right on the edge of going up a size, I always defer to the smaller size, as it is better to be too snug than too loose.

                      If you go to our blog you will find an article I wrote on "Rubber Maintenance". Just type that into the search bar in the upper right hang corner of the blog. It will tell you how to take care of your rubber to get the most life out of it and also how to determine if you need a new sleeve. Typically you should get at least 4 months of regular use out of a sleeve before it needs to be replaced.

                      The amount of sleeve that should be on the chamber is 7/8" of an inch. The outside diameter of the chamber is turned to that amount, and has an under-cut on it with a small radiuses lip on the mouth of the chamber. Just stretch the sleeve over the mouth up to the end of the under-cut, position it as evenly as possible and then put one of the blue rubber bands around it. Refer to the instruction manual with illustrations if in doubt.

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                      • #12
                        Ive hung for a year and Ive used the LG for a four months with good success so far. What I don't quite understand is why is slipping a bad thing. Im hanging 13 lbs for 60 mins and definitely hit fatigue. Some days Ill drop to 11 or even 8 for the second set and hit fatigue. I use 5Hgs and the weight only slips a little from bottomed out. My glands separate from the bottom of the bell about 1/2 inch but it holds and is not painful. My glands are in the bell completely. I have never had success keeping my glands in contact with completely with the bottom of the bell.
                        I will say that most of my fatigue is felt in the shaft closest to the body and pubic bone area while hanging BTC.
                        What Im asking is it important to remain in full contact or "bottomed out and packed"? What is the advantage? If its no advantage I'll continue with 5Hg.

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                        • Foldus
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                          A little separation from the bottom of the chamber isn't uncommon, especially when you start getting above 10 lbs. As you gain hang experience it should diminish. Ideally you want to pack the chamber and experience no slips. But based on your description / experience I'd say keep doing what you're doing. I really don't see any disadvantage as long as you're feeling the fatigue. I also recommend using only as much Hg vacuum pressure as needed. You might want to experiment with 8 - 10 Hg's if you want to stay "bottomed" in your chamber, but as I said that all comes with time.

                      • #13
                        Originally posted by Foldus View Post

                        Adding weight and time to your hang session is intuitive. I wish I could be more definitive, but everyone responds and progresses individually. Like I mentioned in a previous post, it took me three full months to work my way up from a beginning weight of 3 lbs to 8 lbs. I always recommend no more than 1.25 - 2.5 lb increases in weight, and that's only when you have been able to hang with a defined amount of weight for a with no complications. It's completely up to you if you want to jump up another 2.5 lbs. You can try it and see how it feels. You will obviously not be able to add 2.5 lbs to your hang each and every week. You will find you personal limitation.

                        If you have to take a break for a couple weeks or more due to whatever the reason may be, I always suggest dropping the weight and hang time by 50% and then slowly over the course of the next two weeks incrementally build back up to where you left off. Similar to working on a sun tan, your skin needs to be reconditioned to that work load or exposure.

                        As for stretching your sleeve repeatedly..... you shouldn't have to remove the sleeve from the chamber each time you use it. Just stretch and roll the portion that hangs from the chamber back up over itself. The instruction manual provides an illustration on how to do this. However if you are loosing vacuum pressure because your sleeve isn't making solid contact with your penis skin and you are experiencing the weight slipping during your hang, then you might need to purchase a new sleeve. If you feel your current sleeve is too big, you might want to go down a size. I always choose the sleeve size based on the measurements the customer supplies. If you happen to be right on the edge of going up a size, I always defer to the smaller size, as it is better to be too snug than too loose.

                        If you go to our blog you will find an article I wrote on "Rubber Maintenance". Just type that into the search bar in the upper right hang corner of the blog. It will tell you how to take care of your rubber to get the most life out of it and also how to determine if you need a new sleeve. Typically you should get at least 4 months of regular use out of a sleeve before it needs to be replaced.

                        The amount of sleeve that should be on the chamber is 7/8" of an inch. The outside diameter of the chamber is turned to that amount, and has an under-cut on it with a small radiuses lip on the mouth of the chamber. Just stretch the sleeve over the mouth up to the end of the under-cut, position it as evenly as possible and then put one of the blue rubber bands around it. Refer to the instruction manual with illustrations if in doubt.
                        Right so 7/8 inch is around 0.78 inch or 2cm, I've got around 1cm-1.5cm of the sleeve on my chamber, is that ok?

                        AS for my silicone sleeve becoming looser, I meant everytime I removed my glans or insert my glans into the chamber/dome, I stretch the sleeve & roll it over the portion of the sleeve on the chamber.

                        But as my chamber is quite large/big the silicone sleeve is becoming looser, if you know what I mean?

                        I have another question, does masturbating/ejaculating hinder gains? I figured the best time to masturbate/ejaculate every day is before using the LG, that way I won't get an erection & I won't lose any gains, do you agree?

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